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5) Views of some Classical Scholars about Ilm al Ghayb:

Views of some Classical Scholars about Ilm al Ghayb:

(please note that this is a chapter from the book “Ghuluw” which can be downloaded from the “PDF Download Files” section.)

(For a better understanding, start from the first blog (Definition and condemnation….))

  1. In his book, Kamal ud Deen, Sheikh Saduq says, on page 109 and 112

“And whoever professes that “the occurrences become apparent to Allah (swt), through consideration and gained knowledge”, then such a person is a disbeliever (kafir) in Allah (swt). And what was other than this, then it is the belief of the Mughiriah sect, and anyone who attributes the knowledge of unseen (ghaib) to the Imams (as), then that is an act of disbelief (Kufr) in Allah (swt) and a departure from Islam according to us.” (Kamal ud Deen, Saduq, Pg 109)

And in another place, on page 112, he says

…Also, the Imam was not aware of these confusing and contradictory claims that were transmitted by the narrators of Hadith because he does not know the unseen, rather he is just a pious slave of Allah (swt) who knows the Quran and Sunnah, and he only knows about those affairs of his shias which are reported to him (Kamal ud Deen, Saduq, Pg 112)

Pic Reference: Kamal ud Deen, Sheikh Saduq, Pg 109 & Pg 112.

2. In the book Masail al Ukbariya, where Sheikh Mufeed answers the questions sent to him by people, on Page 69, question number 20

Shaikh Mufid (413 AH) was asked, as found in his book Masail al Akbariyah (Page 69-72, question number 20) as follows: “There is a consensus among us Shias that the Imam knows what is going to happen, so what was wrong with Imam Ali (as) that he still proceeded to the mosque despite knowing that he would be killed, as well as knowing his killer and the time of his death.And similarly what was wrong with Imam Hussain (as) that he also proceeded to Kufa despite knowing that they will let him down and will not help him, and that he would be killed in this travel. And why is it that when him and his companions were cornered at Karbala, and while he knew that they would be denied access to water, if he had dug into the ground even for about an arm’s length he would have struck water but despite that he did not dig for water to support himself and got martyred thirsty. And why did Imam al Hasan (as) enter into a promise with Muawiyah and made peace despite knowing that he would break the promise, not prove faithful and kill the shias of his father.”

So Shaikh Mufid replied to this claim about the Imam knowing the future:

“The consensus of the Shia scholars is the opposite of that, and Shia scholars have never consented upon this notion that the Imams know the future.”

Pic Reference: Al Masail Al Ukbariya, Sheikh Mufeed, pg 69

3. In his book “Al Awail al Maqalaat”, Sheikh Mufeed writes

“As for saying that the Imams know ghaib, so it is an extremely evil and corrupt belief….”

Pic Reference: Al Awail al Maqalaat, Sheikh Mufeed, Pg 67

4. Shaikh Tusi wrote in his book Talkhis al Shafi (Volume 1 page 252):

“…We do not consider it necessary for the Imam to have any knowledge of things which is not directly related to Islamic laws….”

Pic Reference: Talkhis al shafi, Sheikh Toosi, Pg 252

5. In Majma ul Bayan, which is one of the most popular Shia Tafseer of Quran, Allama Tabarsi writes for the commentary of this verse (Surah al Hud Verse 123) “And for Allah is the knowledge of ghaib of the skies and the earth”

“We do not know of any Shia scholar who permits attributing the knowledge of ghaib to any of the makhlooq (creatures) for the only one who is worthy of being characterized by such an attribute is the one who possesses all knowledge without acquisition. And this is true only for Allah whose knowledge is eternal and He knows everything by Himself (without acquiring it from any source). None is a partner of Him in this attribute and whoever believes that anyone other than Allah knows ghaib then he is outside the fold of Islam. Now as for what has been narrated by the Shias and non Shias among the ahadith of Imam Ali where he mentions some events which would take place in the future, so all that knowledge is what he inherited from the Prophet who in turn was informed by Allah (about some limited future events). So those ahadith do not at all mean that the Imams have knowledge of ghaib.”

Pic Reference: Majmaul Bayan, Vol 5, Pg 273

6. Ibn Shahr Ashoob writes in his book, Mutashabih Al Quran

“The Prophet and the Imam must have full knowledge of the Islamic laws, but it is not necessary upon them to have knowledge of ghaib, after all that would then mean that they are partners of Allah.”

Pic Reference: Mutashabih al Quran, Ibn Shahr Ashoob, Pg 211.

 

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  2. Subh’Allah. Current day Shia brethren are so (inexplicably) dismissive of these (strong) arguments, but hopefully now they will give it a second thought.. given that it has been brought to light that the great Shia Classical Scholars themselves made these arguments in the past. Such as by Sh.Saduq: Imams could not debunk every fabrication, because they were human and it’s report simply didn’t reach them so they knew not of even its existence!

    I loved how Shaykh Mufeed replied to the question “so what was wrong with Imam Ali (as) that he still proceeded to the mosque despite knowing that he would be killed, as well as knowing his killer and the time of his death.And similarly what was wrong with Imam Hussain (as) that he also proceeded to Kufa despite knowing that they will let him down and will not help him, and that he would be killed in this travel. And why is it that when him and his companions were cornered at Karbala, and while he knew that they would be denied access to water, if he had dug into the ground even for about an arm’s length he would have struck water but despite that he did not dig for water to support himself and got martyred thirsty. And why did Imam al Hasan (as) enter into a promise with Muawiyah and made peace despite knowing that he would break the promise, not prove faithful and kill the shias of his father.” & Sh.Mufeed replied: “Shia scholars have never consented upon this notion that the Imams know the future”. Oh well, he’d be greatly surprised by what’s going on today!

    Indeed the Shia scholars of that age and those of today are POLAR OPPOSITES. This is insh’Allah a wake-up call for all those who believe in blindly following today’s Shia Scholars.

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